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Recession Predictions | Bloomberg Surveillance 11/08/2023

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Tom Keene, Jonathan Ferro and Lisa Abramowicz have the economy and the markets “under surveillance” as they cover the latest in finance, economics and investment, and talk with the leading voices shaping the conversation around world markets. This show is simulcast worldwide on Bloomberg Television and Radio.
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  1. @dorrismacklin6734

    December 12, 2023 at 1:02 am

    The only thing you can do is make sure you're ready and plan accordingly because recessions are a natural part of the economic cycle. I began my career during a recession (2009). Aerial acrobatics on cruise ships was my first job out of college. I've developed my own business, am a vice president at a large corporation, own three rental homes, invest in stocks and businesses, and have seen a growth in my net worth of two million dollars over the past four years.

  2. @1981Frederick

    December 12, 2023 at 1:02 am

    Streaming subcription is tge cheapest entertainement available, it basicly cost the price of 1 bag of chips with 6 beers

  3. @edmundlively8137

    December 12, 2023 at 1:02 am

    Disinvolutility

  4. @sammyphon

    December 12, 2023 at 1:02 am

    As an elder millennial, one of the few advantages is having lived through the Great Recession. My advice. Reduce unnecessary expenses, increase your savings by investing in financial markets and do not sell. One thing I know for sure is that diversifying your income can help insulate you from much of the craziness going on in the world

  5. @MTXSHO9732vV8SHO

    December 12, 2023 at 1:02 am

    1:17:00 Must be real interesting to have enough money to talk about raving megalomaniac sociopaths like they're Greenpeace humanitarians.

  6. @GloriaMalcolm-ql7xo

    December 12, 2023 at 1:02 am

    Credit card balances will continue to grow @a rapid rate making it harder to pay the balance down home equity lines of credit card loans etc
    Gloria Malcolm Lawrenceville Georgia 30046

  7. @trailguy

    December 12, 2023 at 1:02 am

    i love how most business analysts interpret difficulty with the debt ceiling as an inability to work together. for them if the compromise was for both sides to approve all spending and sign debt raises freely everything would be wonderful. no wonder we are screwed.

  8. @lemisosaroni8857

    December 12, 2023 at 1:02 am

    Great show! Informative, educative & entertaining. Keep it up!

  9. @DoumoArigato

    December 12, 2023 at 1:02 am

    Welcome back Mr Keene 🎉

  10. @francismumbi49

    December 12, 2023 at 1:02 am

    CFA Level 4

  11. @KuniyilDrSadikSimailNelliantav

    December 12, 2023 at 1:02 am

    F Mo bin Sawman of Sawdi Allah Rapes

  12. @abhijitpal7750

    December 12, 2023 at 1:02 am

    11/09/2023.
    U.S. Central bank history.
    CPI HISTORY. 2001 TO 2006.
    PPI HISTORY. 2001 TO 2003.
    PCE HISTORY. 2001 TO 2008.
    P M I HISTORY. 2001 TO 2007.
    S & P 500 HISTORY. 1999 TO 2001.
    OIL HISTORY AND GAS HISTORY.
    2001 TO 2020.
    Artificial Intelligence World.

  13. @felixkazteyanoz

    December 12, 2023 at 1:02 am

    Very big corrupt government, the republic must be back, the power to the ppl must return.

  14. @therealemperorpalpatine

    December 12, 2023 at 1:02 am

    BITDOG TO THA MOON

  15. @didiermuhire9717

    December 12, 2023 at 1:02 am

    Go bye D ? You are not the law. Thx good night. D

  16. @didiermuhire9717

    December 12, 2023 at 1:02 am

    Lisa : Calm down, if you want some d of D, I am in ny this week-end. D

  17. @didiermuhire9717

    December 12, 2023 at 1:02 am

    Bye bye bye D? Me ?

  18. @didiermuhire9717

    December 12, 2023 at 1:02 am

    Someone is ? It’s D ? Aka me ?

  19. @Quason788

    December 12, 2023 at 1:02 am

    A recession as bad it can be, provides good buying opportunities in the markets if you’re careful and it can also create volatility giving great short time buy and sell opportunities too. This is not financial advise but get buying, cash isn’t king at all in this time!

  20. @didiermuhire9717

    December 12, 2023 at 1:02 am

    D-Volatilization ? You gonna poison de guy? You crazy ?

  21. @captjackhenry

    December 12, 2023 at 1:02 am

    Lisa acts like she's an expert instead of a journalist, so annoying. Doesn't understand her job

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