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@tonypointet9473
December 18, 2023 at 10:26 am
Hey CNN! I get that politics are important to you, but why aren't you currently covering the nine year old girl who got pepper sprayed this past week? What? Black lives don't really matter to you unless you can use them to channel disdain toward political leaders you don't like? I get it, Im not a trump fan either, but you're looking very hypocritical right now staying silent on police brutality against black lives now that trump is gone
@kirstindarling3260
December 18, 2023 at 10:26 am
I'm a pediatric nurse. I'm sorry, but a 60 lbs child with a SHARPENED piece of wood is dangerous when they are actively trying to hurt or threaten someone with it. A sharpened piece of wood can definitely pierce skin and could even splinter off in that skin when that happens. It could even kill someone if used in the soft unprotected abdomen where it could easily go through skin and muscle – even with only the force of a 60lbs child. Also in my experience holding children of the same size down to start IVs, it can take 3- 4 adults to hold them down. The teachers did the correct thing to remove themselves from the situation where they could get hurt and calling the police. The police did the correct thing by using the minimal amount of force they could have under the situation that guaranteed that no one was seriously hurt. Pepper spray causes a burning sensation and minor irritation. It doesn't cause long lasting effects. However, had that child actually been allowed to hurt someone, he would be facing assault charges even at his age. This completely fails to mention that there were at least two previous incidents where police were called to the school about violent outbursts in this child. I agree there are no bad children up to a certain age because they are still learning. However, when a child is that enraged the only option you have that ensures the safety of that child and everyone else is to immobilize him and then talk to him about it when he is calmed down. I'd love to see that woman take a sharpened object out of the hand of a child holding it like a knife to hold his approximately 60-90lbs self where he couldn't hit, punch, kick, bite, or scratch herself. Good luck with that.
@MrSuperBloodstrain
December 18, 2023 at 10:26 am
It's a child, do you see what i'm saying? They could have easily neutralized him by taking the stick instead of pulling out pepper spray. Also, if you watched some of the other videos where the kid is talking, he states that he dropped the stick because he was scared and the police pulled out pepper spray, AFTER he dropped it….
@MrIsnipeUdie
December 18, 2023 at 10:26 am
they said he had a piece of wall trimming and the police took him as a threat and if that kid actually attacked the officers the kid could have possibly injured the them and by the kid holding it as a weapon treating to kill them they took him as a threat and the threat had to be neutralized the threat
@MrSuperBloodstrain
December 18, 2023 at 10:26 am
@MrIsnipeUdie Coming from your grammar mistakes, I assume you are a teenager. You are obviously too immature to understand this concern with police PEPPER SPRAYING a small child. Like the Psychologist said, "…He weighs, what, 60 pounds? And the officers weigh about 200?…" There are several options to choose from.
@sherlocksden
December 18, 2023 at 10:26 am
If a parent pepper sprayed the kid, they'd be charged with child abuse and their child end up in foster care.
@bigotrysux
December 18, 2023 at 10:26 am
@HesGotaGun505
it's not police brutality to "dis-arm". physically grabbing the child and taking a stick from him would have been well within this dumb ass cop's rights in this situation. pepper spray is far more brutal than grabbing and holding.
@bigotrysux
December 18, 2023 at 10:26 am
it's not police brutality to "dis-arm". man versus child? he should have just grabbed him and taken the stick, done! using pepper spray is brutal, quite frankly. cops do so much to make themselves look bad, it just amazes me how anyone could defend the use of pepper spray on a child. pepper spray is supposed to be used when the user is in imminent danger. if that child posed that big a threat to this cop, then he needs to be off the force working as seamstress some where.
@insulatedmemory
December 18, 2023 at 10:26 am
@HesGotaGun505 so spitting at a cop is assaulting an officer? but pepper spraying a child isn't? not to say the kid wasn't out of control but he is a child. kids do that. if a cop gets out of control and gets spit on that's reason to beat someone half to death
@anon12377
December 18, 2023 at 10:26 am
Whoa, anyone else see the girl with the red shirt's purple eyes?!
@KaterinaJade
December 18, 2023 at 10:26 am
Taking the weapon out of his hands might not have been possible. Who's to say he wouldn't have stabbed the little girl sitting next to him if anyone had come close?
It's easy to point fingers, but I doubt the teachers and students thought the pepper spray was excessive. If your kid was afraid for his/her life, I hope you'd thank the cops for taking a course of action that had little chance of failing to save them. A course of action that they knew the media would crucify them for.
@HesGotaGun505
December 18, 2023 at 10:26 am
@hanvin375
>There should be a commas between "Assault" and the second "DUMBASS" as well as between the second "DUMBASS" and "means".
>"pussies" is misspelled
>caps lock= cruise control for cool
By using an "official police tool" like pepper spray, there is less room for assault claims. Because there was no official procedure on how to handle a situation like this (I assume) the safest choice for the officers was to do what they would do if the kid were an adult.
@straightarrowshot
December 18, 2023 at 10:26 am
I think it's funny how people keep saying "they should of just taken the wood out of his hand" Yea not as easy as it sounds. If you want to grab a sharp object out of the hands of a kid who's pissed off and threatening everyone around, be my guess I'll call the medics for when he stabs you. The cops did what they had to, to ensure the safety of everyone at the school. I'm certain the cops didn't want to pepper spray the kid but when he's angered up and has a weapon your options run thin.
@xraidedlok
December 18, 2023 at 10:26 am
@HesGotaGun505 never had a dui..im 23 and ive only had a seatbelt ticket… im no punk
@HesGotaGun505
December 18, 2023 at 10:26 am
@xraidedlok Somebody's upset about their DUI!
@HesGotaGun505
December 18, 2023 at 10:26 am
@leprecon10 lovin' the attitude.
@HesGotaGun505
December 18, 2023 at 10:26 am
@nagone11 Because youtube just loves videos with civilians clearly dying in them. And besides, the whole "he could've died" statement is like me saying "He could have been a hemophilliac and the force of the officers restraining him would make him bleed internally".
@KitWriter
December 18, 2023 at 10:26 am
@HesGotaGun505 lol they were probably confused with mace.
Not many people know the difference.
@TheAbelHerrera
December 18, 2023 at 10:26 am
He threatened to kill people? The boy needs help.
@HesGotaGun505
December 18, 2023 at 10:26 am
@nagone11
>"Suppose this kid had Asthma?"
>Pepper spray is for the eyes
>All credibility of post is lost.
also: proper restraining hold is very proper.
@xraidedlok
December 18, 2023 at 10:26 am
@bigtymelsu not from a rifle. but if 80's vests can stop a point blank 44 and 357 im sure they can take a desert eagle now
@TymesRhymes
December 18, 2023 at 10:26 am
@TiMMYSQUibbLES No I'm not misquoting you now, you can't "Tackle and Subdue" a weapon from a person without"Tackling and Subduing" the person. You are putting words in my mouth. By me defending the cops in this situation your most recent comment implies that you think I love cops which I don't. I strongly dislike cops. But your cynical thinking when you said "Defend the cops all you want…" implies that you don't judge situations based on that moment, you judge them on preconceived notions.
@timm_3r
December 18, 2023 at 10:26 am
@TymesRhymes Again, your misquoting me. Still, no need to use chemical irritants on a 60 lb CHILD with a STICK. This is a classroom not the Vietnam war. Defend the cops all you want so you can wonder why you got tased for jay walking or protesting.
@segacky
December 18, 2023 at 10:26 am
I don't think a dropkick would have been too excessive for this little punk
@TymesRhymes
December 18, 2023 at 10:26 am
@TiMMYSQUibbLES Yeah and most of the time you can't "Tackle and Subdue" a weapon without getting physical with the person carrying the weapon.
@xraidedlok
December 18, 2023 at 10:26 am
@TiMMYSQUibbLES its a sharp piece of wood.. shit you can roll a newspaper up and fold it and kill someone
@timm_3r
December 18, 2023 at 10:26 am
@TymesRhymes Don't take my words out of context. I said "tackle him and subdue the weapon". This means restrain and relinquish. Forceful, yes. Excessive, no.
@TymesRhymes
December 18, 2023 at 10:26 am
@TiMMYSQUibbLES And if they "tackle and subdue" him, it is not police brutality?
@TymesRhymes
December 18, 2023 at 10:26 am
@TymesRhymes *frustrate
@TymesRhymes
December 18, 2023 at 10:26 am
@TiMMYSQUibbLES Tackle and subdue an eight year old? Well anyway to get the sharpened object out of his hand but no matter what happened, there would have been people crying about what they did and saying it was "too much".
You are the one making this a "lynch mob" replying to multiple different posts. If you don't like people's opinion say so but don't reply mutliple times, you'll just frustrated yourself. People have differing opinions, get over it.
@xraidedlok
December 18, 2023 at 10:26 am
@TiMMYSQUibbLES bullets stop in a larger surface area a small point is focused energy and can get right through why do you think sharp assault rifle bullets go through vests and rounded 45s drop to the floor
@timm_3r
December 18, 2023 at 10:26 am
@TymesRhymes So if you can't talk him down you should use irritants designed for out of control adults to stop him? Why couldn't they just tackle him and subdue the weapon like they are trained to do? I'm done posting in this lynch mob.
@xraidedlok
December 18, 2023 at 10:26 am
@TiMMYSQUibbLES no that a knife goes through bp vests
@MBXfilms
December 18, 2023 at 10:26 am
It would have been great if he did the same thing on that interview show, that would have quieted the sympathy. But cops could grab this kid without any weapons, just some protective gear. He's micro.
@gillianpip25
December 18, 2023 at 10:26 am
I am not sure if this kid is special ed or not but sounds like he has behavioral problems. Not sure his full capabilities or not but it takes both teachers and people at home to work with kids like as well as any other kid. Let's keep in mind this kid is only 8 and he is not a big kid where they couldn't use a restraint to hold him down from attacking anyone with that "wooden stick" (heaven forbid) .. Come on people lets get real.. Peppers spray was not the wisest and best choice..
@xraidedlok
December 18, 2023 at 10:26 am
@xraidedlok thats why they wear chain mails in london because no one has guns they stab cops on the street
@xraidedlok
December 18, 2023 at 10:26 am
@TiMMYSQUibbLES oh well youll see it around some day..
@fellahin
December 18, 2023 at 10:26 am
Put corporal punishment back in the schools! If he knew that his actions had consequences he wouldn't misbehave. My parents would have put and end to this kind of behaviour quickly. And why should the taxpayers pay for counseling of the child and parent? Mother, take responsibility for your child's actions. Serial killer Kenneth McDuff's mother blamed everyone but her son and look how he turned out.
@cyborg264
December 18, 2023 at 10:26 am
This bitch "psychologist" is the real reason for this kind of shit. It's ignorant parents like this ignorant mother who find strength and backing by "professionals" who think the only way to teach is through holding hands and singing kumbaya. Ontop of that her arrogant, pretentious approach is even less helpful than anything she felt the police did that wasn't helpful. She only comes off as a self-centered bitch.
@Bombeni
December 18, 2023 at 10:26 am
This video makes a strong argument for putting birth control in the drinking water.
@timm_3r
December 18, 2023 at 10:26 am
@xraidedlok And I'm the Easter Bunny.
@begood4000
December 18, 2023 at 10:26 am
@DAPDave asperger's is sometimes mistaken for Narcissistic personality disorder. It's a very interesting problem. I've faved a documentary for on my channel you might find interesting. However, there are no tantroms as this guy in the doc has better control of it then most. Kids like this 7yo need medication most likely not pepper spray. It's actually good this is getting caught now. Other wise he can do real hard to others or himself if they doesn't get treated.
@FRANKIEFRESH9
December 18, 2023 at 10:26 am
Her eyes are crazy blue !
@xraidedlok
December 18, 2023 at 10:26 am
@TiMMYSQUibbLES you obviously have no idea about kevlar.. they protect up to 50 caliber bullets but a pocket knife will go right through