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In this full interview, CNBC reporter Katie Tarasov sits down with Apple’s head of silicon, Johny Srouji, and senior vice president of Hardware Engineering, John Ternus, for a rare discussion about Apple’s growing chip business, geopolitical risks in Taiwan and what’s next in AI.

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  1. @zero131056

    January 4, 2024 at 3:07 pm

    Great interview but I would love for her to enquire about gaming and Apple a bit more.

  2. @ricardoalvarez2800

    January 4, 2024 at 3:07 pm

    Apple sucks. They buy small companies and steal their technology.

  3. @umeshy

    January 4, 2024 at 3:07 pm

    Apple hires only quality engineers 😂😂

  4. @brandonmgraves

    January 4, 2024 at 3:07 pm

    "There were rumors around [iPhone 15 overheating]" – John Ternus 😆

  5. @HelloWorld-hb7yt

    January 4, 2024 at 3:07 pm

    how old is this interview, because Katie gave birth to twin more than 1 month ago.

  6. @GianniBarberi

    January 4, 2024 at 3:07 pm

    10 minutes and they've said nothing. The best the best the best

  7. @kratosrage

    January 4, 2024 at 3:07 pm

    this is the first interview that I'm seeing apple spoke person talking with much clarity

  8. @sentientbeing05

    January 4, 2024 at 3:07 pm

    5:36 Doesn't make sense. How can Apple be insulated from chip shortage if they only design their own chips? They still have to get them manufactured from TSMC though. Chip shortage affected all the chip fabs.

  9. @alejoforero89

    January 4, 2024 at 3:07 pm

    Strong couples therapy feeling

  10. @UAL320

    January 4, 2024 at 3:07 pm

    She completely missed the opportunity to ask Johny how the huge Apple teams in Israel have been affected by the war.

  11. @Answerx32

    January 4, 2024 at 3:07 pm

    Great interview. I hope Apple does this more often.

  12. @Kalana_JW

    January 4, 2024 at 3:07 pm

    Poducts ❤

  13. @Landwy1

    January 4, 2024 at 3:07 pm

    Apple has become the company for the rich and rich only. I went to the Hackintosh route some years ago. I have an Intel machine (Hackintoosh) that has 40TB of storage and a decent video card, all for $5000. It does use more electricity and the footprint is larger. However, I can get a decent 4TB nvme storage chip for $200, and if it goes bad I can easily replace it. The same storage from Apple would cost $2000 and if it went bad, you would have to replace the motherboard as well; therefore you might as well buy a new computer. BTW…if you didn't have a full backup, neither Apple, the NSA, FBI, or a storage rescue company could retrieve your data.

    I'm looking forward to buying a SnapDragon ARM based PC that will be able to emulate MacOS or just rum windows or some form of UNIX/LINUX. Frankly, I don't give a damn if Apple has great hardware/software, if I can't afford it. There are many old Intel based Macs that are 10 years old and running just fine. The new Mx series based computers from Apple won't make it past the five year mark, especially if you bought them with 8GB memory and 256 GB storage.

    An analogy is Super Cars versus a Tesla. Yes the Bugatti is a great car ($3,000,000) but not that much difference versus a Tesla Model 3 ($30,000). In this example the Bugatti is the Macintosh and a Tesla is the PC. Yes Windows is clunkier and Linux can be too technical at times, but it sure makes a lot of sense for most people.

    Apple, you might want to learn from Tesla, as their manufacturing processes make a better and cheaper car to buy with each iteration. Of course Apple will never do this, as they think like Sony with the BetaMax. How well did that work out for Sony?

  14. @robertosanchez879

    January 4, 2024 at 3:07 pm

    I love the Christoph Waltz guy

  15. @MarkWhiteartist

    January 4, 2024 at 3:07 pm

    What I got from this interview is that in order for Apple to build a great product they have to own the end to end process of the product. So I see Apple coming out with an iPhone cellular plan to compete with Verizon and stuff. Their own WiFi routers, their own version of Bluetooth, etc…

  16. @MarkWhiteartist

    January 4, 2024 at 3:07 pm

    If I took a shot for every time he said we are not a chip company

  17. @quellepls2568

    January 4, 2024 at 3:07 pm

    When do we get oled idiots. And Android pls

  18. @elliotfernandes

    January 4, 2024 at 3:07 pm

    But I'm not a rapper

  19. @pdr770

    January 4, 2024 at 3:07 pm

    אפל תעבוד על תהליך זול יותר בהרבה ויעיל לייצור שבבים במדפסת תלת מימדית בסרט נע זה עתיד המדפסות התלת מימדיות מדפסות תלת מימדיות בסרט שעולות מיליארדים לכמה דורות שבבים וביצוע שינויים מהירים בפטנט והן יכולות להדפיס את כל הSoC זה חוסך 100$ לאייפון ואפל תצטרך מאות פחות ספקיות חומרה עם מרכיבות אפל לשבבים כולל הרכבת אייפון במקום עובדים. אפל תפתח אותם לאייפון ולמק. והשבב יהיה יעיל בהרבה אולי. גם בתעשיות אחרות. ג'ף ינהל את בניית המכונה שאפל תייצר כדאי לחסוך מיליארדים רבים וטוב לסביבה. שנקראת Big Berta. ותייצר מדפסת תלת מימד לבגדים בסרט נע במקום עובדי תפירה ותשתלט על שוק עיצוב וייצור האופנה ומרקטינג במחירים גבוהים באיכות קב אמן במחיר גבוה זה כמו ההליכה על הירח. בפטנט ויש עוד ענפים כמו עבודות מתכת ועץ למדפסות תלת מימד בסרט נע. וזה יכול לחסוך 5 מיליון עובדים במשק. וניתן לבצע שינויים במדפסת במהירות של כמה שניות באפלקציה.

  20. @pdr770

    January 4, 2024 at 3:07 pm

    אפל תיצורת Kit למשחקים שמסדר חפצים ודמויות גם שהם נעות עם שינוי זווית צילום למשחקים זה חוסך מאות אחוזים בRAM וכן Korn Kit לסאונד תלת מימדי עם סוג חומר, ריקושט ומרחק ואם יש חומר מפריד וביחד עם קול למשחקים וקיט לקול איכותי ואמיתי יותר במשחקים עם הקלטת פני השחקן גם בפייסטיים ושיחות טלפון ומזהה את סוג החומר שבחדר ובאיזה מרחק וקול של טלוויזיה בפטנט באייפון 16 פרו וAirPods הבא. לאיכות שיחות טובה בהרבה וקלאסית. גם לשמיעת מוסיקה באפל מיוזיק ואפל מיוזיק קלאסיק, סרטים ונטפליקס עם סוג החדר כולל סוגים שונים עץ וחומרים אחרים עם מבחנים באולפן. אפל תפרסם את זה בכלכליסט ובטלוויזיה ויוטוב לא באירוע כי זה משעמם. זה ממש קל.

  21. @pdr770

    January 4, 2024 at 3:07 pm

    אפל תפתח שבב סלולר בפטנט שחוסך 500% מהפעולות שצריך לAI וChatGPT מצלמה ויוטוב.

  22. @pdr770

    January 4, 2024 at 3:07 pm

    גוגל תפתח מחשב על שמסוגל לבצע 10 פעולות בפעולה אחת גם אפל לאייפון לפעולה מורכבת שמבצעת עד 10 פעולות וכן GPU זה תוכנה לא פיזיקה או חומרה זו שפת מחשב. עם הרבה פחות RAM שכן מדובר בעשרות פעולות. או עבודה עם כלל הSoC בפעולה אחת ומהר יותר טים. ומהר יותר.

  23. @pdr770

    January 4, 2024 at 3:07 pm

    אפל תייצר DRAM עםסיביות זיכרון שמסוגלות לבצע כמה פעלות ואפילו מאות ולא 1 ל1 אלא 6 או 4 ל1 בקילר רעיון טים זה הדבר הבא טים לכל מכשיריה. גם לאפלקציות ולתהליכים בOS כמו תהליכים במסך ובתוכנה. תמציאו שם מוסרי. עם שבב 128 ביט לאייפון בפטנט.

  24. @pdr770

    January 4, 2024 at 3:07 pm

    אפל תפתח שבב RAM וזיכרון שמקטין את צריכת הCPU וGPU וסלולר בתהילוך מהRAM ועוד באייפון ובאפל ווטש לפחות RAM ומהיר בהרבה בתהליך של הRAM לSoC בתהליך בין הRAM לCPU וGPU בשפה חדשה עם Swift. זה יכול להאיץ את הRAM בעוד 50% עד פי 2 רק ברמת התיהלוך. אולי FRAM לאייפון 16 גם ברגיל, תקימו מפעלים לכך תוך כדאי. זה אפשרי. גם למצלמה וGPU וששב AI וסלולר.

  25. @boomsuga

    January 4, 2024 at 3:07 pm

    These two are smart bullshitters.

  26. @pdr770

    January 4, 2024 at 3:07 pm

    טים אפל תרכוש חברות תוכנה מעולות שיאיצו איכות צליל ומוסיקה במגוון דרכים. זה קריטי זה מה שגרם לאפל להיכשל בהתחלה מול אנדרואיד ותגייס עובדים. גם עבור אפלקציות כמו נטפליקס ואמאזון פריים.

  27. @pdr770

    January 4, 2024 at 3:07 pm

    אפל תרכוש חברות תוכנה מעולות שיאיצו את הGPU ומשחקים ומצלמה. ברעיון חשוב. לאייפון 16. בטכנולוגיית ARM. ותמציאו פיצ'רים חדשים לצילום כתוצאה באייפון 16 ובמק עם שמות מעולים ומוסריים לצילום באייפון. גם לצילום בלילה ותשיגו יותר מהנדסים מאינטל וסוני למצלמה.

  28. @pdr770

    January 4, 2024 at 3:07 pm

    אפל תפתח סיליקון עם מתכת שתאיץ את הסיליקון מאוד גם בRAM וGPU וזיכרון ושבב AI ושבב מצלמה מהיר יותר לפחות RAM ושבבים קטנים יותר בקצוות גם בטסלה לבטריות ושבבים חDJI שתרכוש את BYD ותתחרה בטסלה ותעסיק מעצב מעולה ממש מתעשיית המכוניות יוקרה.

  29. @samualwallace4690

    January 4, 2024 at 3:07 pm

    You know after working in industrial engineering designing fulfillment centers for amazon I learned that these tech companies can do amazing things. But because they use these open office layouts you need more people than I think would be required if you had better designed office space. An working from home is even worse for productivity as can be measured by declines in patents from any org that has tried it.

    Apple moved to this open office layout with there new tech hq, and they honestly haven’t done anything but incremental improvements since. Apparently many employees hatted the new office set up.

    We don’t have enough engineers and tech trained people to waist 5,000 engineers to do what 2,000 could do with better designed office layouts. But because tech companies are so monopolistic by nature, given the scale of Talent and Ip that is required, this is a hard problem to solve.

    Hoarding all these 130 to 160 IQ people into these open office spaces where your constantly confronted with distractions is a terrible waist of talent. It can be hard to do any real work in that kind of environment.

    So I don’t doubt that Apple is an amazing company and more so at product creation vs Amazon. They were also smart not to over expand during the pandemic like Amazon. But we waist a large portion of the talent we have even at a company as innovative as this.

    I think SpaceX has a much better semi open office design where the managers can still see what everyone is doing. At least from the older vids I saw from the early to mid 2010’s. It is still open so managers see over them to see what people are doing. But there turned to be blocked off into sections of four cubicles. And the cubical walls extend up enough that when you sit down you get some privacy to be able to concentrate. I think Elon is one of the rare people who have had experiences with leading organizations from small size to very large that he gets how to balance creative work space collaboration with providing an environment where people can still concentrate to do work. This layout is still manageable by leadership while not growing to be very overstaffed with bs jobs.

    When he bought Twitter I was not surprised that he was able to keep the company going with 1/5th the staff. Apple could probably find ways to dramatically increase productivity of there engineers by simply just redesigning the office spaces.

  30. @JohnSmith-pn2vl

    January 4, 2024 at 3:07 pm

    apple silicon is just mind blowing

  31. @acdnintheusa

    January 4, 2024 at 3:07 pm

    Apple is famously quiet. At times they’re accused of lagging their competition. As this interview touched on, their efforts in generative AI being the most recent criticism. This great interview should dispel and quiet some of the critics.

  32. @DreaminBig

    January 4, 2024 at 3:07 pm

    Is John just there for emotional support?

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